In The Bad News Today . . . (UPDATED Version)

'VELCOME to SOCIALIST AMERIKA, COMRADES!'

or is it: Coexist with One God, Many Faiths?

Here are several articles that have come to my attention, that I feel must be shared in order to help to reveal the trends we are being drawn into by the Power Elite:

UPDATE: 8/15/11 - Ready for some more bad news? Actually, its just more of the same, but with a broader and more specific perspective (note: some assertions in this video are not endorsed by this writer; I have posted this video for informational purposes only):

FIGHT the NEW WORLD ORDER
~ end of update.

First up: LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER - Why is the National Guard recruiting for 'internment' cops? Ad campaign seeks workers at 'civilian resettlement facility'

What's the Need for Internment Cops in America?
By Bob Unruh© 2009 WorldNetDaily

An ad campaign (link above) featured on a U.S. Army website seeking those who would be interested in being an "Internment/Resettlement" specialist (to view this web site go to: GoArmy.com website) is raising alarms across the country, generating concerns that there is some truth in those theories about domestic detention camps, a roundup of dissidents and a crackdown on "threatening" conservatives.

DHS Scoping Out Right Wing Extremists?
April 12, 2009:

"WASHINGTON – A newly unclassified Department of Homeland Security report warns against the possibility of violence by unnamed "right-wing extremists" concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power, restrictions on firearms, abortion and the loss of U.S. sovereignty and singles out returning war veterans as particular threats."

Let's look at some of the evidence we have of the U.S. government's intentions to establish the infrastructure that could be used to house large numbers of political dissidents, so-called terrorists and other individuals the U.S. government wants locked up. HR 645 the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act is a proposed bill in the U.S. House of Representatives that would authorize FEMA to build no less than six National Emergency Centers throughout the U.S. on closed or open military facilities. These facilities are to be designed to house large numbers of people.

Why would emergency centers need to be built on closed or open military facilities unless there was a need to keep people from coming in and out of them? KBR was granted a government contract a few years ago to build facilities to house illegal immigrants. Now with illegal immigration becoming less of a problem with the U.S. economy in the toilet, these facilities can now be used for other purposes.

"This is just another step in the U.S. government's long term plan to build the infrastructure that could be used to contain wide spread popular revolt. Combine this with the swine flu fear mongering and the potential for a mass swine flu vaccination operation and it is easy to see what might happen. Refuse to take their poisonous vaccine and you might risk being locked up as being a hazard to public safety. With more and more people not trusting either political party or the corporate media, the 'powers that be' realize that they need to continue building their martial law apparatus.

These Army National Guard job listings are just another piece to that puzzle proving what we already know is being built," the editorial claimed.
At the Examiner, a commentator wrote, "Correctional/internment facilities?"

The earlier DHS report was "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment." WND has posted the report online for readers to see.
The report linked returning veterans with the possibility of terrorism, and when it was released it created such a furor for Napolitano she has given several explanations for it, including that she would have reworded the report and that it was issued by a rogue employee.
She later apologized to veterans for having linked them to terror.

But Thompson noted that the report also targeted as "potential terrorists" Americans who:

-Oppose abortion
-Oppose same-sex marriage
-Oppose restrictions on firearms
-Oppose lax immigration laws
-Oppose the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship, and the expansion of social programs
-Oppose continuation of free trade agreements
-Are suspect of foreign regimes
-Fear Communist regimes
-Oppose a "one world" government
-Bemoan the decline of U.S. stature in the world
-Are upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India, and more

Thompson told WND no apology has been offered to the members of any of those classes of citizens.

Rumors, speculations, and some proof of internment camps have floated around the Internet for years, such as this one:

American Concentration Camps

UPDATE: 11/04/11BARBED WIRE CAMPS - Also in the Sonoran Desert, AZ
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Leavenworth - US Marshal's Fed Holding Facility, US Penitentiary, Federal Prison Camp, McConnell Air Force Base. Federal death penalty facility. ...

For those who used to laugh at the 'absurdity' of such concepts, let alone the actual construction and implementation of such facilities: are you still laughing?

In our times of economic hardship and a failed economy, why are more prisons being built across the nation, at hundreds of millions of dollars each? Here is one such example, right here in the state of Arizona:

Why More AZ Prisons?

Also it's interesting that at the top of this list of 'potential terrorists' are those who oppose abortion. This has been stated after the fact of partial birth abortions, made legal by the present administration, and yet is this as far as its going to go? What about terminating a baby already born, registered, brought home, only later to become unwanted?

Will this baby be legally seen as a 'human being'?

This report from - Hot Air web site:

Planned Parenthoods Pernicious Perspective

Here are some excerpts from an CNSnews.com article (No longer online):

Obama’s Science Czar Said a Born Baby ‘Will Ultimately Develop Into a Human Being’

Tuesday, July 28, 2009By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief

"President Obama’s top science adviser said in a book he co-authored in 1973 that a newborn child “will ultimately develop into a human being” if he or she is properly fed and socialized. “The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,” John P. Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wrote in 'Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions.'

"The specific passage expressing the authors’ view that a baby 'will ultimately develop into a human being' is on page 235 in chapter 8 of the book, which is titled “Population Limitation.”

"Holdren co-authored the book with Stanford professors Paul R. Ehrlich* and Anne H. Ehrlich. The book was published by W.H. Freeman and Company."

* watch this short clip in which P.R. Erlich is mentioned:

Making of a Myth: OVERPOPULATION!

And for more on this, look here at this web site: Population Research Institute
- Documents abuses of human rights in pursuit of population control; argues for moderate population growth and "economic development models"

We interupt this message to bring you an update:
~~~UPDATE: 9-3-10

Based on Al Gore's book Inconvenient Truth, a 'lone gunman takes The DISCOVERY channel hostate, demanding that something be done about "over population"!!!

Well, this is what we can expect from those who buy the party line that WE ARE GETTING TO BIG FOR THIS PLANET! We need to reduce the population otherwise COSMIC DOOM will ensue!
The SKY IS FALLING!!!

Read the article here, then return to the sane position of a sufficiently sized planet suitable for our needs and those of generations to come:

Lone Gunman at Discovery Channel Building
~~~end of update
“To a biologist the question of when life begins for a human child is almost meaningless, since life is continuous and has been since it first began on Earth several billion years ago,” wrote the Ehrlichs and Holdren. “The precursors of the egg and sperm cells that create the next generation have been present in the parents from the time they were embryos themselves. To most biologists, an embryo (unborn child during the first two or three months of development) or a fetus is no more a complete human being than a blueprint is a building.

The biologists have some re-thinking to do then; obviously a baby in or out of the womb is more than a blue print. It's a complete human being biologically speaking, and all it requires is the same as any human being requires: air, water, food, and other less essential needs. A blue print can never become a building because all it is, is paper and ink (or a computer graphic); it will never develop into steel, concrete, glass, electrical wiring, etc. etc.

Human DNA, on the other hand, the very blueprint of life engineered by our Creator, has the stuff inherent in its very code and materials to become a human being; no further genetic information is necessary for this to occur, merely mitosis and specialization of genetic material which is programmed to occur within the DNA itself!

A baby however will become a more mature human being as it learns and develops emotionally, intellectually, socially, and morally; nevertheless, it's still a human being and not an orange, a salmon, or a chimpanzee!

Any talk to the contrary is an attempt to de-humanize human beings as to make certain "solutions" of termination more palatable, just as they were in Europe, and specifically in Germany in the 1930's and 40's.

“From the standpoint of the terminated fetus, it makes no difference whether the mother had an induced abortion or a spontaneous abortion,” write the Ehrlichs and Holdren. “On the other hand, it subsequently makes a great deal of difference to the child if an abortion is denied, and the mother, contrary to her wishes, is forced to devote her body and life to the production and care of the child.

In Sweden, studies were made to determine what eventually happened to children born to mothers whose requests for abortions had been turned down. When compared to a matched group of children from similar backgrounds who had been wanted, more than twice as many as these unwanted youngsters grew up in undesirable circumstances (illegitimate, in broken homes, or in institutions), more than twice as many had records of delinquency, or were deemed unfit for military service, almost twice as many had needed psychiatric care, and nearly five times as many had been on public assistance during their teens."

Articles abound showing that abortion has done nothing to curtail child abuse or relieve any child's developmental needs for a secure home life, an intact family with a father and a mother; psychological health, or public assistance. Here is just one of dozens:

"Pro-abortionists have suggested that legal abortions, by reducing the number of "unwanted" pregnancies, reduce the incidence of child abuse since every child born will be wanted and loved. However, since abortion became legal, the incidence of child abuse has increased!"

ABORTION: The Modern Holocaust
The Ehrlichs and Holdren then chide opponents of abortion for condemning future generations to an “overcrowded planet.” “Those who oppose abortion often raise the argument that a decision is being made for an unborn person who ‘has no say,’” write the authors. “But unthinking actions of the very same people help to commit future unheard generations to misery and early death on an overcrowded planet.”

~UPDATE - 8/17/11
Visit this site on the Fallacy of Overpopulation, Eugenics and Transhumanism as a means of controlling the "Less favoured races" by the "More Favoured races" - and understand this - the originator of the ideology of eugenics was none other than a cousin of Charles Darwin, Sir Francis Galton!

The New Eugenics - Climate Change, Bogus Overpopulation and Transhumanism
~~end of update

An overcrowded planet? What justification is there for making this allegation?
A starving world? There is enough food in the USA to provide for the needs of the world's hungry, but in countries that seek dominance over their population, such charitable offerings of food supplies are left to rot on the docks, or taken by the power elite of those nations, while the masses continue to starve.

You could take all Americans, relocate them to Oregon, give each family a 2 acre plot, and we would all fit! Or the entire planet's population could fit snugly within the confines of a land mass no bigger than the state of Texas!

Overcrowed cities? Considering the demographics of the planet, most overcrowding is within city limits of major cities. The surrounding lands are quite habitable, and can accomodate a population several times of what it is today!

Not enough jobs to go around? Our economy is being crippled by such organizations as WTO which provides through our own government the re-location of jobs offshore, denying Americans jobs and giving them to foreigners, instead of those same foreign nations developing better economics on their own. Seriously heavy tax proposals on oil production domestically will put many private companies out of business.

Above all, the FEDERAL RESERVE is the biggest culprit for strangling our economy with its fiat currency. Probably 80% of our economic woes could be alleviated with the disbanding of this non-governmental agency!

“The third approach to population control is that of involuntary fertility control,” write the Ehrlichs and Holdren. “Several coercive proposals deserve discussion mainly because societies may ultimately have to resort to them unless current trends in birth rates are rapidly reversed by other means.”

Such allegations are unfounded and only serve to promote Population Control, which the Power Elite desires to that they can 'control the population'!

The analogy has been used many times before: which class room would be easier to control? A class of 15 students, or 50? The answer is obvious.

~~~For more on 'Population Control' see other articles by typing that phrase into the search engine of THE RED PILL CONSORTIUM.

Other issues in the news these days:

Evangelicals are making greater concessions and compromises to become ecumenically correct. You might be surprised to see who's on this list of Christian leaders who are now espousing a 'world view' of religious acceptance (even occult practices!): Would you believe David Jeremiah, and Chuck Swindoll??

I am grieved that such men of God would sucuumb to this blatant Emergent Church (read that New Age re-dressed) theology. If you find this as unbelieveable as I did, click on the Lighthouse Trails link below and read it for yourself!

Misguided Shepherds: Christian leaders Accomodate Contemplative Spirituality

And here are other leaders who are continuing their efforts in creating a homogenized, one world religion: Bill Hybels is joining forces with Tony Blair and Buddhist monks and the like??

When Evangelicals Dine with the Wicked
And in line with One World Ecumenism, here is an article where a Muslim endorses the buildng of . . . the Jewish Temple?

TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND

What?! Muslim leader wants Temple rebuilt: Jewish Sanhedrin rabbis unite with Turk on common cause -

Posted: August 05, 20099:08 pm Eastern© 2009 WorldNetDaily
With the Middle East still in chaos and rumors of war in the air, the idea of rebuilding the Jerusalem Temple on a foundation occupied and administered by Islamic militants might seem fanciful – even preposterous.

But the author of a new book The Islamic Antichrist returned from Turkey recently with news that a prominent Islamic teacher and best-selling author and Jewish Sanhedrin rabbis are hoping to do just that. In a column penned in WND today, author Joel Richardson reveals the historically unprecedented development.

Needless to say that things are turning rather grim, the woman in travail is experiencing contractions now at a substantially accelerated rate. At the risk of repeating myself redudantly, it's certainly time for believers to wake up and see the landscape as things really are; and to drop to our knees, submit ourselves to the Holy Will of God, turn from any wicked way within us, and turn wholly to a Holy God.

The bride of Christ must prepare herself with linen, clean and white, the sanctified righteousness of the saints. Mortify the flesh, walk in God's Spirit, and yearn for holiness with all our hearts.

And now for the good news! . . . open your Bibles and go ahead and read, there's plenty there!
Maranatha!

Corruptions of the Roman Catholic Church: Beware Jesuit Infiltrations Into Evangelical Churches

I want to make this abundantly clear so as to assuage any suspicions that I am a 'Roman Catholic basher', or even one who is necessarily opposed to Calvary Chapel ministries. My desire is not to bash, to criticize, to belittle or to speak disparagingly of any church or church organizations and affiliations. I can tell you that my hearts desire, my fervent, zealous, adamant desire is to tenaciously cling to the Word of God, to herald its Truth with confrontation as necessary towards those promoting lies and half-lies (knowingly or otherwise), and to hold fast its doctrines and to practice them by God's enabling grace and empowering Spirit. Perhaps it's unnecessary to speak of the apostasy (the falling away from the faith in God's Word) these days; any Christian who even occasionally opens their Bible and is aware of what's in the news via TV, newspapers, newsletters, magazines and Internet is at least somewhat aware that the church of Jesus Christ is committing compromises with non-Biblical organizations and religious bodies, that the church is being flooded with heresies and deceptive spiritual experiences which are empowered by demonic spirits (1 Tim. 4:1) This shouldn't surprise us, but it should (and does) grieve us that the church has fallen into such a deplorable state of carnality, deception and embracing false teachings with little or no discernment exercised to "test the spirits" (1 John 4:1). UPDATE: 5/21/12 A video presentation placed on youtube verifies and summarizes the content of this article. You can watch this here. ~ ~ end of UPDATE. It is out of a love for God and His sheep, and a desire to warn the LORD's flock against such "perilous" dangers (2 Tim. 3:1) that I write this article. I know in advance that despite this disclaimer regarding any wish to cause division or to be judgmental, even hateful, I will receive responses accusing me of such. Be that as it may; as Martin Luther once said, "Unless I am convinced by the testimony of the Holy Scriptures . . . for I can believe neither pope nor councils . . . as it is clear that they have erred repeatedly and contradicted themselves I consider myself convicted by the testimony of Holy Scripture, which is my basis; my conscience is captive to the Word of God. Thus I cannot and will not recant, because acting against one's conscience is neither safe nor sound. God help me. Amen." Those who are biblically literate understand that most of the dogmas of the Roman Catholic church are extra-biblical, that is, beliefs and practices whose foundation are not derived from the Holy Scriptures. It is because teachers and pastors of high regard, who know the Word of God, and have taught it faithfully for decades, and whose ministries have blossomed incredibly across the nation, and even across the globe, that I am astonished and dismayed at these recent, and many past developments. Saturday morning on June 25th, I received an email from co-writer Anne Kisly of The TRUTH Under FIRE ministry; it was an article written by Roger Oakland regarding "a high officer in the Vatican’s Jesuitical, 'Knights of Malta'. William "Jerry" Boykin, former commander of the United States Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center Special Forces Psychological Operations . . ." The Order of Malta is a religious order of the Vatican. Jerry Boykin holds the title of Grand Chancellor with the Vatican’s Jesuitical, “Knights of Malta”. Who are the Jesuits, you might ask, and what is the mission of their Order? "The Jesuit order, otherwise known as the Society of Jesus (S.J.), has been the military enforcement arm of the Catholic Church since it was first founded by Ignatius of Loyola of Spain in 1534 during the reign of Pope Paul III, ostensibly to combat Protestant heresy. And while many feel that the Jesuits are only a sub-order of the Roman Catholic Church and are merely seekers and disseminators of knowledge, they have a much darker history that many people do not know about. [For a detailed, truly exhaustive history of the Jesuit Order please examine these chapters in pdf from The Berean Beacon web site - History of the Jesuits by Dr. J. A. Wylie LL.D.] (Library of Congress, Washington D.C., Library of Congress Catalog Card #66-43354, made public in 1883. This oath is still in effect, and is still used today.) UPDATE: 7/11/11 From UNDERSTAND the TIMES and LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS we have a special report! Read it at this link provided: The JESUIT AGENDA ~~end of update UPDATE: 8/15/11 FROM UNDERSTAND the TIMES and LIGHTHOUSE TRAILS, another special report that goes into more detail and yet also broadens the perspective of all this in an overall view of the coming global government, global religion and how 'Christianity' will lead the way (??): a Dominionist Political Agenda ~~ end of update

The OATH of the JESUIT - "When a Jesuit novice is about to be inducted into the higher levels of the Order, he kneels on a red cross before the Superior of the Order. Before him are two flags, the familiar yellow and white flag of the papacy, and the black flag with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones, the flag of the Jesuit Order. On the Jesuit flag is written the words, IUSTUM, NECAR, REGES, IMPIOS. ("It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical kings, governments, or rulers.") The Superior of the Order hands the novice a small black crucifix which he presses to his heart, and the Superior then presents to the novice a dagger. The novice grasps the bare blade and presses the point to his heart. The Superior, still holding the hilt of the dagger then speaks to the novice. "Superior: My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among the Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence to seek even to preach from their pulpits and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and to descend so low as to become a Jew among the Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope." The preceding quotes and the list of questions following below, were taken from: The Jesuit Order - The Society of Jesus (Jesuits) The complete Oath of Extreme Induction At the conclusion of the ceremony where a Jesuit Initiate is inducted into the higher Orders the following questions are asked of the newly exalted Jesuit: "You will then give and receive with him the following questions and answers: Q: From where do you come? A: From the bends of the Jordan, from Calvary, from the Holy Sepulchre, and lastly from Rome. Q: Whom do you serve? A: The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church Universal throughout the world. Q: Who commands you? A: The successor of St. Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Society of Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ. Q: Who received you? A: A venerable man with white hair. Q: How? A: With a naked dagger, I kneeling on a cross beneath the banners of the Pope and of our sacred Order. Q: Did you take an oath? A: I did, to destroy heretics and their governments and rulers, and to spare neither age, sex or condition. To be as a corpse without any opinion or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my superiors in all things without hesitation or murmuring. Q: Will you do that? A: I will. Q: How do you travel? A: In the bark of Peter the fisherman. Q: Whither do you travel? A: To the four quarters of the globe. Q: For what purpose? A: To obey the orders of my General and Superiors and execute the will of the Pope and faithfully fulfill the conditions of my oath. Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Viceregent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated." It is quite obvious that if a Jesuit of a higher Order takes such a vow, then someone holding one of the highest rank and title of Grand Chancellor with the Vatican’s Jesuitical, “Knights of Malta” would take this oath, and or similar oaths swearing allegiance to the Roman Catholic Church and no other authority. "It is also known that The Knights of Malta openly display the Vatican’s ecumenical intentions as part of the Jesuitical Counter Reformation" Another vow specifically taken by the Knights of Malta can be read here: Vows of a Knight or Dame of Malta So this William 'Jerry' Boykin is a Jesuit? Do we know this for sure? Yes we do, its on the record at the web site for the Knights Hospitallers of the Sovereign Order of St. John also known as the Knights of Malta, a specific division within the Jesuit Order - look under the Grand Magesterial Chancery at the top of this page, fourth name from the top: The KNIGHTS of MALTA - William Boykin, Retired Lt. General of US Army, Grand Chancellor And what's so significant about this Jesuit Boykin? This isn't easy to declare, and by no means do I intend to make any one angry or uncomfortable, I only want to alert the saints to what's happening under our very noses and warn of this Jesuit Infiltration: The following is from the NOISE OF THUNDER RADIO web site with Chris Pinto, who has posted Roger Oakland's (www.understandthetimes.org) article on this disturbing development (some of this article will read familiarly as I've used its material in my own here) - But before you look at this web site, let me say that as a Christian of over thirty one years, I have been the recipient of solid teaching, edification and sound counsel from the various Calvary Chapels I've attended as my home fellowship as well as a visitor. Here in Tucson, I've been in attendance of the Calvary Tucson fellowship for about seventeen years. I have left that fellowship for non-obvious reasons that even I myself am unclear about. All I know is that the LORD was directing me out and I have, with no small degree of puzzlement, obeyed. So let it not be said that I am 'anti-Calvary Chapel'; I regularly post blog articles on my facebook page from the pastor of Calvary Chapel of Roswell, Jim Suttel and am enormously encouraged by them; I've also visited and been blessed at various Calvary's such as Calvary Sierra Vista with pastor Pat Lazovich, and Tri-City Calvary Chapel with John Higgins. While in New York I attended Calvary Chapel of the Finger Lakes (over two decades ago) with Bil Gallatin. Having said this, I believe that the Calvary Chapel movement is at a definitive 'fork in the road', and each fellowship from the congregation to the leadership must be very careful and discerning as to which of these two roads they traverse. Some Calvarys are remaining true to the Word of God, teaching it faithfully: this is orthodoxy, or correct teaching and knowledge. Some of these are likewise conducting themselves in accordance to the Word of God so that they are not only teaching it correctly, they are practicing the Word of God in their every day lives, or "walking the talk" as it were: this is orthopraxy, or correct and upright living. There are other Calvary's that are cozying up to and associating with authors, teachers, and pastors who are either of the Emergent Church Movement or friendly towards it, and since the Emergent Church Movement can be simply boiled down to apostasy, plain and simple, this association is not only unwise, its blatantly unbiblical! * *(For those who still happen to not know or understand what the emergent church movement is all about, simply type that phrase into any of the search engines of all three sites: The TRUTH Under FIRE or its two sister sites, FROM the MIND of FIRE or this one, The RED PILL Consortium.) How could these churches go astray in such a manner as this? What influences have they been subjected to that would sway them towards such a movement, that in itself is steering formerly biblical churches and Christians towards an identification with New Age and Roman Catholic beliefs and practices? Perhaps they had some help of the Jesuit sort? (Please note that not only is this retired Army Lt. General a Jesuit, but also Rick Joyner from Morning Star ministries is as well. Joyner and Morning Star are blatantly unbiblical and his association as a Jesuit to the Pope may not be altogether surprising, but it's well worth noting, and perhaps indicative of the Jesuits mission to cause division and havoc among evangelicals) - JERRY BOYKIN and the CALVARY CHAPEL Connection The above article will have a link that will direct you to something called The Oak Initiative which Rick Joyner (as President) and Boyken are leaders of. Under their "Our Purpose" tab, you will find words such as "shift" and "change-agents" which are New Age/Emergent terms. That, and the fact that Joyner and Boyken are leaders (Jesuits both) tells me that this Oak Initiative is a tree that God's axe will bring low and cast down as a bad-bearer of fruit or bearing no good fruit at all! To date, Greg Laurie still works together with and makes contributions to Rick Warren's ministry and while the Worship Conference hosted at the facilities of CC Albuquerque did not have Leonard Sweet as a speaker, he was still an attendant to the conference. Lt. General Boykin, a.k.a. Jesuit is also involved in speaking at Epicenter Conferences with Joel Rosenberg (one of which was just completed last year about this time), as are various Calvary Chapel pastors as can be seen at the following link: Epicenter Conference 2010 Here is Boyken speaking at an Oak Initiative Conference. Everything he says seems to be very good, doesn't it? He seems to be a very convincing Christian man of biblical convictions. Is he conflicted in his vows as a Jesuit? Or does he not adhere to his Jesuit vows? Or is he speaking with the intent of subterfuge, an M.O. that Jesuits regularly employ as documented in their own vows? Watch this video and see what he has to say: Boyken Speaking at OAK INITIATIVE The following google search shows the numerous occassions and events in which William 'Jerry' Boykin has taught in various functions in association with, or directly related to Calvary Chapel churches and (other) ministries: Lt. Gen. Boykins Speaking Itinerary at Calvary Chapels Needless to say Boyken seems readily welcome to speak at Calvary Chapels. If he takes his vows of the Jesuitical Orders seriously, and he must, otherwise he would be stricken from those Orders and his rank as Grand Chancellor would be revoked - or worse, then his mission according to these Orders is clear. If leadership in the Calvary Chapel movement was unknowing about this man's Jesuit vows, they aren't any longer; Roger Oakland's Understand The Times and other Christians in ministry such as Chris Pinto and Lighthouse Trails ministry as well as their readers have no doubt brought this to the attention of Calvary Leadership (as I certainly will do locally here). However, let us for the moment suppose for the sake of argument that such ancient Jesuitical vows have been obsoleted - that Jesuits no longer spy, conspire, even assasinate for the sake of acquisition of increased power in the Roman Catholic church; that such activities are from a by gone era, never to be re-visited... Suppose Jesuits are only scholars, educators and high ranking priests - they are still Roman Catholics who are sworn to safeguard and uphold the dogma of that institution. Why then would such a one be allowed to serve along side of biblically oriented pastors when their theologies are opposed if in fact the pastors of Calvary are in the know regarding Boyken? Or, what will be their response once they discover the true religious nature of this man? For any who doubt that Roman Catholic dogma is that far off the mark, I refer you to the writings of Dave Hunt, in particularly his highly researched and documented book A Woman Rides The Beast (you can find this book and other resources on Mr. Hunt's and T.A. McMahon's web site: www.thebereancall.org) In light of this, the response of the leadership is yet to be seen. I shudder to think that the leadership may actually be cognizant, only too aware of Boykens loyalty to the Jesuit Order; but would they then understand that the Jesuit Order's mission as originally conceived is still intact and operative? This is why its vital that we pray for the leadership and ask God's intervention to bring everything to light about Boyken and on those grounds dismiss him from any and all association with Calvary Chapel or any other Christian ministries. As a Jesuit and a high ranking leader himself in the Roman Catholic Church, we who are watching understand that this enormous, wealthy and also far-reaching in its influences institution has the intent of corralling not just Christian denominations and fellowships (including Calvary Chapel ministries) under her wings, but also all religions in order to form a unified, global consortium, eventually leading to what the Bible has declared for thousands of years, a one world religion that is inimicable to biblical Christianity (See Revelation ch. 17 and 18, esp. 17:3-6; 18:2-5). We have seen this repeatedly through the works of the previous Pope, John Paul II and his invitations for religious leaders to join with him for prayer for world peace and cooperation among their respective religions, which began in 1986 and has continued with the present Pope Benedict XVI. World Religions for World Peace The non-obvious (for those who don't carefully research its direction and ideology) intention of the Emergent Church Movement is to likewise condition evangelical and biblical Christians to becoming more tolerant and accepting of those practices and policies represented in this papal religion. Could we possibly see Calvary Chapel as a movement becoming associated with Roman Catholicism, if only in friendly dialogue if not outright alliance? I pray that this will not happen! On another related note, discernment and apologetic ministries are keenly aware, as are all biblically-literate Christians (they are becoming extremely uncommon in our day, sadly!) of the false doctrines of Dominionism, but what we sometimes don't appreciate is that this idea started with the Roman Catholic church! The idea that we must "take back" from the heathen 'unbelievers' that which rightly belongs to God, and establish His godly rule on Earth - with that rulership being wielded by the Pope of course! This eventual 'taking back' the entire globe for establishing Christ's (or more precisely, the 'vicar of Christ' i.e., the Pope) kingdom on Earth gels completely with a one world government and religion. Christ plainly declared that His kingdom is not "of [from]this world" but that He Himself would establish it - not the church or any pseudo-Christian institution! Visit the following site to understand the inner workings of all this, and the part that Jerry Boykin is playing in it: Vatican Psy-Op on America by William Saunders This 'taking back' of America for Christ is also a mission that David Barton has assumed, and yet even here this conservative Christian (?) has some anomalous assertions and apparently misleading conclusions re: our American History and the direction we ought to go in as the church of Jesus Christ - David Barton's Connection to Calvary Chapel, Charles Stanley, Mormons and Others The following quotes are found in the above link: "The Christian Nation Heresy is one of the most powerful tools to implement ecumenism. It has been born in the U.S.A. and has been set in place by men with motives. These men are the Jesuits who have infiltrated many organizations that once stood for biblical truth. The Jesuit plan is to make the pope’s word the word of a god and the Word of God the word of man. "The Christian Nation Heresy, it will be shown, was founded by the Jesuits who have a plan to put the USA under the leadership of the pope and his kingdom. For many who profess to be Christian, they have been sucked into this deception without knowing it. Others are sucked into it and know it." "Brian Broderson is participating in an ecumenical union in Great Britain as he has joined hands with Nickie Gumbel of Holy Trinity Brompton. Gumbel has joined hands with the pope to partner together in the New Evangelization." (emphasis mine) The New Evangelization is the mission of Roman Catholic leadership and laity to bring the Roman Gospel to Christians in an attempt to sway them towards a commonality, then compliance with the Roman Catholic Church! You may or may not be aware that yet another Jesuit has assumed the role of chaplain for the House of Representatives: "A Jesuit will be sworn in as the 60th chaplain of the House of Representatives on May 25, when he will become the first member of his order and second consecutive Catholic priest to serve the House. As chaplain, the Rev. Patrick Conroy will be in charge of opening House sessions with prayer, coordinating guest chaplains, counseling members of the House community . . ." “I am also humbled by the confidence my Jesuit superiors are demonstrating in making me available to answer this call to serve the People’s House,” Conroy added (emphasis mine). So we see, perhaps only what is the proverbial tip of the iceberg in the Jesuit involvment in America, both currently and historically. It would seem that this Order is infiltrating and its members masquerading as 'right wing', conservative Christians who are patriotic towards America and rallying people in a great number of churches towards a call of 'reclaiming America'. Reclaiming it for who though? one must ask. In this last article much of this is addressed and you can read more about Rick Joyner, Jerry Boykin and others that are associated with this 'great work'. The Grand Master and the Christian Right 2 Tim 3:1, 5, 12-17 ¶ This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 1 Tim 4:1-3 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. Philippians 3:17-20 ¶ Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Act 20:28-31 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. 1 John 4:1 ¶ Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 5:13-14 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. 1 Peter 5:8-9 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: (see also 1 Tim. 3:2) Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. Matthew 24:4-5, 11-12, 23-25 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.

LOST LOVE - A Response to Rob Bell's "Love Wins"

Rob Bell's latest book LOVE WINS had gotten a lot of coverage, and its thematic presentation of the Gospel or more precisely "another Gospel which is not another Gospel" has further defined and clarified the followers of biblical truth from those of emergent falsehoods.

In this article I will be presenting the views and web links to articles by Ken Silva, Tim Challies, Kevin DeYoung and Al Mohler in their countering of Rob Bell's treatment of the Gospel message with a series of articles on TTUF, along with a few comments of my own.


UPDATE (5-29-11): Todd Friel from WRETCHED reviews Rob Bell and his heterodox and even heretical statements - watch all these clips here:

WRETCHED on Rob Bell

~~ end of update

During any major sporting event, if we miss the televised program, we will ask someone after the fact, "Who won?" and once we find this out, the following question of "What was the final score?" is usually asked; because we want to know not only who won, but by how much.

In LOVE WINS, Bell presents the idea that God wins all, a sort of 'shut out' on souls between the contest of God and Satan. There is no one that goes to hell (except for a kind of hell of their own making here on Earth by refusing the Gospel and not allowing the work of 'Christ' into their lives), or at least their experience there is short lived; that is to say, they may be in hell for a while, but in the end, love wins and all souls eventually are redeemed (an idea originally promoted by none other than Origen, who himself was either Gnostic or heavily influenced by that Grecian philosophy [I believe the former]).

Sounds like Universalism, doesn't it? To understand the erroneous notion of Universalism, please feel free to visit our primary web site The TRUTH Under FIRE for the following article -CHRIST'S COURT - Soon In Session


Universalism is also known as Universal Redemption/ Reconciliation(the following link is a source of such Universalists and their beliefs)
Christian Universalism

God's love is seemingly measured by the numbers, that somehow the Divine expression of agapeo love (to be selflessly committed and devoted to another with no regard for oneself and whose unconditional service looks for no return) is glorified by the idea that no one is lost or condemned.

However God's love is manifestly measured by the sacrifice that God Himself committed to, in the Person of His Son Jesus Christ and His atonement that paid for our sins by dying on the cross.

This is the singular method of salvation, and those who would seek redemption from their lost condition must come to the Father through the Son, for there is no other way to heaven but by Jesus and through His Name (JOHN 14:6; ACTS 4:10-12).

The explicit submission to, and belief in Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Messiah of Israel is required in order to acquire salvation. Bell suggests that Christ's salvation reaches further than the domain of Christians, that Muslims while remaining Muslims, Hindus while remaining Hindus, etc. can be saved by an amorphous assent and credence to Christ (and where such 'belief' is expressed "Jesus" is usually deleted from His title of "Christ"), and thus while God's love for such sinners is abundant and enduring up until the time of the Judgment, it's not received other than by His Son and the way of the cross. Such love is lost on them for they reject it by rejecting the pure and true Gospel.

Let's have a look at what Ken Silva has to say about this book by Bell:

"Sadly, mainstream evangelicalism became spiritually spineless and embraced the sinfully ecumenical neo-liberal cult of the Emergent Church aka the Emerging Church, now upgraded to 2.0 with its newer, more clearly delineated, postmodern Progressive Christian theology, which these rebels against the final authority of the Word of God will often refer to under their circus 'big tent' as Emergence Christianity.

"Years of poisoning its own young by using EC teachings in their Young Adult and Youth groups has opened the door for its pro-gay agenda and its non-gospel of universalism right within the heart of younger sectors of evangelicalism. That’s why lately I’ve been giving you peeks at its bleak future of division and compromise of God’s Word; and for nearly six years now, in articles like Is Rob Bell Evangelical? and Rob Bell Is Definitely Not Like Jesus, I’ve been warning you that Bell’s doctrine is not at all in line with the historic orthodox Christian faith."

Tim Challies quotes Rob Bell's book (Tim Challies and Aaron Armstrong read an advanced copy), Love Wins and shows what he truly believes regarding salvation through Jesus Christ and the meaning of the cross for the people of all religions (for a look at Mr. Challies article on Love Wins, visit the following site - Tim Challies Review of Love Wins):

"As soon as the door is opened to Muslims. Hindus, Buddhists, and Baptists from Cleveland, many Christians become very uneasy, saying that then Jesus doesn’t matter anymore, the cross is irrelevant, it doesn’t matter what you believe, and so forth.
"Not true. Absolutely, unequivocally, unalterably not true."

"What Jesus does is declare that he, and he alone, is saving everybody."

MATT 7:13-14 
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

(and on a side note for those who would bring doubt to this truth:

MATT 7:15 
¶Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.)

"And then he leaves the door way, way open. Creating all sorts of possibilities. He is as narrow as himself and as wide as the universe."

JOHN 10:7, 9-10 
Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

JOHN 14:6 
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

JOHN 8:31-32 
¶Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
…
"People come to Jesus in all sorts of ways." Refer back to John 14:6; the one that leads people to Jesus has been, and always will be the Father as well as the Holy Spirit:

JOHN 6:44 
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

JOHN 15:26 
¶But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:…

"Sometimes people use his name; other times they don’t."

ACTS 4:12 
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

…"Some people have so much baggage with regard to the name 'Jesus' that when they encounter the mystery present in all of creation—grace, peace, love, acceptance, healing, forgiveness—the Creation as we now know it is in a fallen state - all of creation groans and travails to be delivered from the bondage [of sin] that it's in. Creation does not demonstrate God's grace, or peace, love, acceptance, healing or forgiveness. Nature can be as deadly and indiscriminate as a nuclear blast with its myriad tornados, earthquakes, pestilences, etc.

ROM 8:21-22 
Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
…
"What we see Jesus doing again and again—in the midst of constant reminders about the seriousness of following him living like him, and trusting him—is widening the scope and expanse of his saving work."

This work is the work of the Gospel which alone is the answer for redemption and this is what must reach this lost, blind, corrupt and fallen world in ever widening parameters; but what we are seeing rather is a widening intolerance for the Biblical Gospel and the Truth, and widening heresies and apostasy taking its place.

ROM 1:16-17 
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
...
"The plot has been lost, and it’s time to reclaim it." (Preface, vi)

The Gospel has never been lost, it is not lost, nor will it ever be lost; the Gospel is everlasting and cannot be abrogated by the religion of man -

REV 14:6 
¶And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

"A staggering number of people have been taught that a select few Christians will spend forever in a peaceful, joyous place called heaven, while the rest of humanity spends forever in torment and punishment in hell with no chance for anything better…. This is misguided and toxic (emph. mine) and ultimately subverts the contagious spread of Jesus’ message of love, peace, forgiveness, and joy that our world desperately needs to hear. (ibid)" Refer back to MATT. 7:13-14; also -

REV 5:9 
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

ROM 8:9 
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

JOHN 1:12-13 
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God....

"Will everybody be saved, or will some perish apart from God forever because of their choices? Those are questions, or more accurately, those are tensions we are free to leave fully intact. We don’t need to resolve them or answer them because we can’t, and so we simply respect them, creating space for the freedom that love requires. (p.115)"

Ken Silva responds to these statements and beliefs of Bell:
(Bell's Mars Hill Bible Church Meeting Re: LOVE WINS - Be sure to watch the video clip at the end).

And now to Kevin DeYoung who summarized much of what Bell believes in the following:

"Hell is what we create for ourselves when we reject God’s love. Hell is both a present reality for those who resist God and a future reality for those who die unready for God’s love. Hell is what we make of heaven when we cannot accept the good news of God’s forgiveness and mercy. But hell is not forever. God will have his way. How can his good purposes fail? Every sinner will turn to God and realize he has already been reconciled to God, in this life or in the next.

"There will be no eternal conscious torment. God says no to injustice in the age to come, but he does not pour out wrath (we bring the temporary suffering upon ourselves), and he certainly does not punish for eternity…"

Mr. DeYoung comments:

In the blog buzz leading up the release of Love Wins, there was a lot of discussion about whether Bell is or is not a Christian Universalist. After reading the book, I see no reason why the label does not fit. Now it’s true, Bell believes in hell.

But he does not believe that God pours out his wrath on anyone forever (I’m not sure he thinks God actively pours out wrath on anyone at all). Hell is the sad suffering of this life (p.71). Hell is God giving us what we want (p.72). Postmortem hell is what we create for ourselves when we refuse to believe God’s story, when we resist his love (pgs.170-71, 172, 177). There is hell now and hell later.

Here is another quote by Bell:

“There are all kinds of hell because there are all kinds of ways to reject the good and the true and the beautiful and the human now, in this life, and so we can only assume we can do the same in the next” (p.79).

DeYoung comments further:

So why do I say Bell is a Universalist if he believes in hell? Because he does not believe hell lasts forever. It is a temporary “period of pruning” and “an intense experience of correction” (p.91). Bell’s hell is like purgatory except his “period of pruning” is for anyone, not just for Christians who die in a state of grace as Catholicism teaches…

At the very heart of this controversy, and one of the reasons the blogosphere exploded over this book, is that we really do have two different Gods. The stakes are that high. If Bell is right, then historic orthodoxy is toxic and terrible. But if the traditional view of heaven and hell are right, Bell is blaspheming. I do not use the word lightly, just like Bell probably chose “toxic” quite deliberately. Both sides cannot be right.

As much as some voices in evangelicalism will suggest that we should all get along and learn from each other and listen for the Spirit speaking in our midst, the fact is we have two irreconcilable views of God.

For an exhaustive treatment of Love Wins by Kevin DeYoung, visit this site (note, while this article is quite long, I highly recommend it as it is extremely well written, valid in every respect, and has a precision in pointing out the errors of Rob Bell that in my opinion is quite impeccable).

DeYoung's approach to addressing the errors of Love Wins is dealt with by looking at seven areas: Bell’s view of traditional evangelical theology, history, exegesis, eschatology, Christology, gospel, and God:

God Is Still Holy and What You Learned in Sunday School Is Still True: A Review of “Love Wins”

DeYoung states:

These are strange sentences because they fall in the chapter where Bell argues that God wants everyone to be saved and God gets what God wants. He tells us that “never-ending punishment” does not give God glory, and “God’s love will eventually melt even the hardest hearts” (p.108). So it’s unclear where the sudden agnosticism comes from. Is Bell wrestling with himself? Did a friend or editor ask him to throw in a few caveats? Is he simply inconsistent?

Similarly, at the end Bell argues, rather out of the blue, that we need to trust God in the present, that our choices here and now “matter more than we can begin to imagine” because we can miss out on rewards and celebrations (p.197). This almost looks like an old-fashioned call to turn to Christ before it’s too late. When you look more carefully, however, you see that Bell is not saying what evangelicals might think. He wants us to make the most of life because “while we may get other opportunities, we won’t get the one right in front of us again” (p.197). In other words, there are consequences for our actions, in this life and in the next, and we can’t get this moment back; but there will always be more chances. If you don’t live life to the fullest and choose love now, you may initially miss out on some good things in the life to come, but in the end love wins (pgs.197–198).

We've heard from Ken Silva, Tim Challies and Kevin DeYoung; now we turn to two articles written by Al Mohler, the latter of which he answers Brian McLaren, another Emergent, who comes to the aide of his colleague and friend, Rob Bell in defense from Mohler's supposedly effrontery.

In his first article entitled We Have Seen All This Before: Rob Bell and the (Re)Emergence of Liberal Theology, Dr. Mohler writes on the emergence of emergent church perspectives:

"For the last twenty years or so, a movement identified as emerging or emergent Christianity has done its determined best to avoid speaking with specificity (emph. mine). Leading figures in the movement have offered trenchant criticisms of mainstream evangelicalism. Most pointedly, they have accused evangelical Christianity, variously, as being excessively concerned with doctrine, culturally tone-deaf, overly propositional, unnecessarily offensive, aesthetically malnourished, and basically uncool.

"Many of their criticisms hit home — especially those rooted in cultural concerns — but others betrayed what can only be described as an awkward relationship with orthodox Christian theology. From the very beginning of the movement, many of the emerging church’s leaders called for a major transformation in evangelical theology."

Mohler continues: "And yet, even as many of these leaders insisted that they remained within the evangelical circle, it was clear that many were moving into a post-evangelical posture. There were early hints that the direction of the movement was toward theological liberalism and radical revisionism (emph. mine), but the predominant mode of their argument was suggestion, rather than assertion.

Rather than make a clear theological or doctrinal assertion, emerging figures generally raise questions and offer suggestive comments. Influenced by postmodern narrative theories, most within the movement lean into story rather than formal argument. Nevertheless, the general direction seemed clear enough. The leading emerging church figures appeared to be pushing Protestant Liberalism –just about a century late."

In this excellent article Mohler points out that this 'new' book by Rob Bell (someone that he compares with Harry Emerson Fosdick, liberal pastor of International Riverside Church in New York City, a church regularly sponsored by the Rockefellers) simply reiterates and re-institutes the old fashioned theological liberalism of over a century ago that expresses a denial of hell, that supports the view that salvation is attainable post-mortem; he rejects the idea that a person must come to a personal knowledge of Christ in this life in order to be saved. “What if the missionary gets a flat tire?” he asks.Dr, Mohler documents Bell's view of universal salvation by the following beliefs of the Love Wins author:

But this is how Rob Bell deals with the Bible. He argues that the gates that never shut in the New Jerusalem [REV 21:25] mean that the opportunity for salvation is never closed, but he just avoids dealing with the preceding chapter, which includes this clear statement of God’s justice: “And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.” [REV 20:15] The eternally open gates of the New Jerusalem come only after that judgment.

Mohler comments on Bell's Inclusive message and contrasts this with the straight forward message of the Bible regarding the Gospel specifically and generally the entirety of scripture:

"Bell clearly prefers inclusivism, the belief that Christ is saving humanity through means other than the Gospel, including other religions. But he mixes up his story along the way, appearing to argue for outright universalism on some pages, but backing off of a full affirmation. He rejects the belief that conscious faith in Christ is necessary for salvation, but he never clearly lands on a specific account of what he does believe.

"Tellingly, Bell attempts to reduce all of the Bible and the entirety of the Gospel to story, and he believes it is his right and duty to determine which story is better than another — which version of Christianity is going to be compelling and attractive to unbelievers. He has, after all, set that as his aim — to replace the received story with something he sees as better.

"The first problem with this is obvious. We have no right to determine which “story” of the Gospel we prefer or think is most compelling. We must deal with the Gospel that we received from Christ and the Apostles, the faith once for all delivered to the church. Suggesting that some other story is better or more attractive than that story is an audacity of breathtaking proportions. The church is bound to the story revealed in the Bible — and in all of the Bible … every word of it.

"But there is a second problem, and it is one we might think would have been learned by now. Liberalism just does not work. Bell wants to argue that the love of God is so powerful that “God gets what God wants.” So, God desires the salvation of all, he argues, so all will eventually be saved — some even after death, even long after death. But he cannot maintain that account for long because of his absolute affirmation of human autonomy. Even God cannot or will not prevent someone from going to hell who is determined to go there. So, if Bell is taken on his own terms, even he does not believe that 'God gets what God wants'.”

And if 'love wins' does that mean that holiness and justice lose? That would seem to be the implicated conclusion to Bell's writing, Mohler commments:
"Similarly, Bell’s argument is centered in his affirmation of God’s loving character, but he alienates love from justice and holiness. This is the traditional liberal line. Love is divorced from holiness and becomes mere sentimentality. Bell wants to rescue God from any teaching that his wrath is poured out upon sin and sinners, certainly in any eternally conscious sense. But Bell also wants God to vindicate the victims of murder, rape, child abuse, and similar evil. He seems not to recognize that he has undercut his own story, leaving God unable or unwilling to bring true justice."

Another 'Gospel' in Bell's Nutshell liberal theology -

"It begins in the sure and certain truth that we are loved. That in spite of whatever has gone horribly wrong deep in our hearts and has spread to every corner of the world, in spite of our sins, failures, rebellion, and hard hearts, in spite of what has been done to us or what we’ve done, God has made peace with us.

"Missing from his Gospel is any clear reference to Christ, any adequate understanding of our sin, any affirmation of the holiness of God and his pledge to punish sin, any reference to the shed blood of Christ, his death on the cross, his substitutionary atonement, and his resurrection, and, so tellingly, any reference to faith as the sinners response to the Good News of the Gospel. There is no genuine Gospel here. This is just a reissue of the powerless message of theological liberalism.

H. Richard Niebuhr famously once distilled liberal theology into this sentence:
“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.”

We wholeheartedly agree with Niebur's view of liberal theology!

Dr. Mohler's article drew the attention of Emergent writer and teacher, Brian McLaren. Here is the link to Mohler's response with quotes from McLaren himself:

A Theological Conversation Worth Having: A Response to Brian McLaren

Here are some gleanings from the above article:

Brian McLaren:
"Now communication is nearly always tricky, as any of us who are married or are parents know. The speaker has a meaning which is encoded in symbols (words) which then must be decoded by the receiver. That decoding process is subject to all kinds of static - for example, interference from the biases, fears, hopes, politics, vocabulary, and other characteristics of the receiver or the receiver’s community. If the receiver then tries to pass the meaning - as he has decoded it - on to others, there is more encoding and decoding, and more static. That’s why, with so much encoding and decoding and re-encoding going on, the challenge of communication across many cultural time zones is downright monumental."

Al Mohler:
"Communication is indeed “nearly always tricky,” but McLaren’s argument leads to interpretive nihilism. Can we really not know what the Gospel is? If this is true, the church is left with no coherent message at all. All of our attempts to define the right form of the Gospel are just human interpretations, he insists, and we must avoid “excessive confidence” in any telling of the Gospel story. McLaren warns that we must avoid “a naive and excessive confidence,” but that we can retain a “humble confidence.” But his argument leaves us with very little idea of how this “humble confidence” is to be found, since “no articulation of the gospel today can presume to be exactly identical to the original meaning Christ and the apostles proclaimed.”

That statement leaves us with only approximations of the Gospel — some presumably better, some worse. And we would in fact be left with nothing more precise or authoritative than that but for one thing — we have the Bible. We are absolutely dependent upon the New Testament way of telling the Gospel of Christ, and the apostles were determined to pass along the Gospel as a clear and understandable message to others. This is why Paul instructed Timothy to “follow the pattern of the sound words that you have heard from me, in the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus” and to “guard the good deposit entrusted to you.” [2 TIM 1:13-14]

If we cannot know what the Gospel is, then there is no such thing as the faith “once for all delivered to the saints.” [JUDE 3] If so, we have nothing definitive to say."

McLaren argues that the traditional understanding of hell presents a God who is not loving, even by human standards.
In his words:

"If a human father decided to throw his child in a fireplace for just ten seconds as punishment for disobedience, we wouldn’t fault the father simply for being unsentimental: we would say such behavior was unholy, an act of torture in violation of our most fundamental sense of justice. Any definition of justice and holiness that involves being unsatisfied unless the imperfect are suffering eternal agony seems to many of us as unworthy of a human being and if so, how much more unworthy of God whose justice must be better than our own."

Al Mohler:
"That argument is straightforward enough, and we need to look at it closely. The central problem with McLaren’s formulation is that such logic destroys any faithfulness to the totality of God’s self-revelation about himself. It presumes to judge God by human conceptions of love — and this is precisely what God himself rejects. He will not allow himself to be judged by humans. We simply do not have an adequate moral vantage point from which to make judgments about the character of God. We are, as in all things, utterly dependent upon God’s self-revelation and self-definition.

We do not know who God is by knowing what love is. We understand love by knowing who God is. But Brian McLaren seems quite ready to judge God by human standards of love and justice. In his most important book, A New Kind of Christianity, he rejects the Genesis account of God’s actions in the story of Noah, describing the story as “profoundly disturbing.” As he concluded, “In this light, a god who mandates an intentional supernatural disaster leading to unparalleled genocide is hardly worthy of belief, much less worship.” He responds to other texts in a similar way.

But God explicitly rejects such a human determination of his character. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord,” as the prophet Isaiah declared. [ISAIAH 55:8] Instead, God defines his loving character like this: “God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” [ROMANS 5:8]

For more of these points and counterpoints by McLaren and Mohler please review the article at the link provided above.

And finally, in case you missed this, here is a video of Rob Bell, interviewed by Martin Bashir where this anchor deftly cuts to the heart of the issue, making Bell visibly uncomfortable and somewhat tepid ambiguous in his answers:

Love Wins Rob Bell MSNBC Interview

Its imperative that in the presentation of the Gospel, we must be quite clear that salvation is in the Person of Jesus Christ, and that a cognitive, explicit confession of the Savior on a personal level, a repentance from sin and a sinful lifestyle, and a surrender of our hearts and lives to Him as our new LORD and MASTER is required to complete the transaction of imputation by the Righteous LORD.

No one will be 'accidently' saved, or saved by some ambiguous assent to God in the Person of Jesus, or professing faith in Jesus while remaining Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, etc.

Whatever one was before coming to Christ, that is done away with where spiritual/religious matters are concerned and considered part of one's old life; the believer receives and embraces new life in Christ as His new creation!

2 COR 5:17-19 
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Rob Bell seems to declare that LOVE WINS no matter what, but in making such a declaration, he ignores the fact that there are eternal consequences for those who travel the broadway, those who are the children of disobedience, those who are children of darkness, and of whom no salvation is evident, for they bear no fruit to the glory of God the Father, and are therefore ineligible for heaven and eternal life, for without any fruit and genuine good works, there is no certainty for salvation. Of such the LORD declares Himself:

MATT 7:23 
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The love that could have been theirs to experience for an eternity is lost on those who refuse the LORD that offers it; indeed, that love is lost to them!

Our State of Affairs: Nationally and Spiritually Pt. 2

2 TIMOTHY 4:3

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

Any Christian who is still reading their Bible knows that this time has come. The word 'endure' in the Greek is found in 2 THESS 1:4; it's anechomai, meaning "to hold onself up against, to put up with (tolerate?), to uphold, to have. Anechomai is also used in MATT 17:17; 1 COR 4:12 as "suffer"; 2 COR 11:1,4,19-20 as "bear with" and "suffer" and HEB 13:22 as "suffer".

MATTHEW 17:17
Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.

In the passage in 2 TIMOTHY, the negation of anechomai is used, meaning that these will NOT hold up, will NOT put up with [tolerate] sound ("healthy, wholesome, sound")teaching.

Our State of Affairs: Nationally and Spiritually Pt. 1

As the old expression goes, "All is not well in Denmark" - Hamlet made that remark in the Shakesperrean play of the same name, and in that line, he expressed the sense and recognition that there were unknown actions and deeds just beneath the surface of his world that were immoral, corrupt and lent towards the obscene and illegitimate acquisition of power. 

Later he found out that his uncle had murdered the King (Hamlet's father), to acquire the throne and satisfy his lustful ambitions to have the King's own wife, Gertrude. Human nature never changes and its the same willful, sin-laden propulsions that drive humanity today as they ever did. 

I could go on and on about how the acquisition of power foments deeper and greater corruption in beings that are inherently corrupt (angelic and human alike), but I think we are all quite aware of this truth, particularly where the human governments of this world are concerned, and specifically the administration of D.C. for several decades, even centuries now. 

 This corruption is rotting our nation from the inside out and there doesn't appear to be any immediate change or cure for bettering this condition, to say nothing of actually healing it! We can examine the dismanteling of the checks and balances of the three branches of our government (Executive, Legislative and Judicial) that leaves power in the hands of the few who enjoy impunity and are not accountable to 'We the People'. 

 We could discuss the economic woes of the financial structures and institutions that were once rock solid and the veritable stability of our monetary wealth here in this country. We can discuss the moral free-fall of the living souls that populate the cities all across America and how a condition of 'lawlessness' is the rule today. What is both bewildering and heart breaking is, that we see the church here in America is little different than the nation! 

Whereas the bride of Christ is to be a chaste virgin, walking in purity, donning the robes of righteousness and the garment of salvation and walking in sanctification, set apart and distinct from the world - its virtually a mirror image of the world! Are we not to be living in conformity to Christ? To bear His image, and not the world's? America has seen bad times before and somehow managed to survive and make a come back, you may say, and you'd be right. 

Yet today is a different picture. Am I saying that America is doomed, that its about to be wiped out, or deteriorate to such a degree as to become a non-power in the world? Not exactly, although such an idea is far more feasible than most of us would believe. America will survive, but as a different creature. Our Constitution will be abrogated by a more globally acceptable document of singular governance. We won't 'be' Americans any more. 

Any distinction of God-given rights and the freedom that our Constitution employed in each of America's citizens as 'sovereigns' individually (I bet not one American out of a hundred, maybe even a thousand could even explain what this means!) will be removed, and rights will become 'privileges' doled out by a government that will reward the politically correct and chasten those that stand for individual freedom of thought and belief. 

We are in a state of transition and are about to go through some tremendous upheavals that will rock the citizenry of America to such a point of frightful desperation that we will look to the government to save us from this impending peril, and willing to compromise anything for the sake of stability and security! 

We have gone from being the world's leading 'lender nation' to the world's leading 'debtor nation'. We currently owe so much money borrowed from other nations, particularly the Asian block (China, Japan and others) that should they decide to call in their markers, the flimsy infrastructure of our finances would fall to ruin. 

Not only so, but the money in U.S. dollars that China holds is about to get traded in for a different currency, and should China decide to do this, other nations in the Asian block and elsewhere will follow suit, and this spells economic ruin for us. A BBC report stated as follows:

 "China's central bank has called for a new global reserve currency run by the International Monetary Fund to replace the US dollar. Central bank governor Zhou Xiaochuan did not explicitly mention the dollar, but said the crisis showed the dangers of relying on one currency. With the world's largest currency reserves of $2tn, China is the biggest holder of dollar assets." 

BBC Reports on CHINA In Monetary Transition To understand our economic situation both current and recent, view the following report (in PDF file) that explains everything in detail: America: Leading Debtor Nation and What It Means I believe the primary reason for the strength or weakness in any national economy today is predicated on those who control what is known as a central bank and utilize a fiat currency. 

What is a central bank? Or a fiat currency? To understand these terms, and the difference between a financial problem and a monetary problem, please review the information at the following site: (Note: In Chapter 10 "The MONEY Makers" of this online source, Peter Drucker is named as a "spokesman for the oligarchy in America"; this is the same Peter Drucker who formed the Christian Leadership Network, and whose members are the 'Who's Who" of the Emergent Church Movement such as Brian McLaren and Rob Bell! What has a man, presumably a Christian leader who established a 'network' for Christian Leadership doing by involvement with such enterprises as managing America's economy?! See the quote below) 

The MONEY Makers Also this chapter would prove useful: Jekyll Island To view a list of all fourteen chapters from this site, go here: SECRETS of the FEDERAL RESERVE Peter Drucker, spokesman for the oligarchy in America, declared in an article in the Saturday Evening Post in 1948, that: "RUSSIA IS THE IDEAL OF THE MANAGED ECONOMY TOWARDS WHICH WE ARE MOVING." If you gain an understanding of what a "managed economy" is, you will then realize where the danger lies in a central bank that utilizes a fiat currency! 

Bottom line is that a central bank without due process and authorization by a government representative of the people's wishes is beyond the reach and accountability of the citizenry of any nation. They can manipulate the money system towards the advantage of 'the power elite' at the decided disadvantage of the working class of the nation. A fiat currency is a currency backed by nothing; not gold or silver or any other precious (read that scarce) commodity. 

In order for something to have intrinsic value there must be some measure of scarcity so that it retains value. Sand would make a poor commodity; so would hay, or copper as these are too plentiful in supply to carry monetary power. When you or I want to make money, we have to work for it. What the government has to do to make money is print the face of a dead president on some fancy plated paper for mere pennies. It costs them virtually nothing to print money, but we have to earn it! 

So if the Federal Reserve decides to print money in vast amounts, this lessens the value of each dollar and as a result of its decreased spending power, it takes more money to pay for the same goods; thus inflation. And debt. We used to measure our national debt in billions of dollars - today the debt has reached the astronomical heights of 14.3 trillion dollars and increasing $100,000 about every minute! How long can this go on until the entire system collapses? For the brief explanation of all this, please read the following: The Federal Reserve-The Engine of Power 

For more detailed information on the C.F.R. and Professor Quigly that their relationships with the monetary methods of our nation and the entire globe see the following: MONEY OUT OF NOTHING 

Suffice it to say that sorrow and tragedy are ahead and it would be wise for those in this predicament to get out of debt, attempt some savings using commodities that retain their value, and even to store up some food stuffs and other necessaries for that dark 'rainy day' ahead. Alright, enough about the financial woes of our nation. 

UPDATE: 3-16-11 

 Barry Eichgreen's article reveals and substantiates what we've been seeing for a long while now and indicative of a major non-linearity coming to us in the not too distant future: Why The Dollar's Reign is at an End 

Next topic - America: The Great Melting Pot, as its been called. We all came here from somewhere else, from different countries and cultures, but those ancestors that brought us here had a dream of becoming Americans, where freedom ruled and prosperity was possible. We are not in the same situation today with immigration escalating to new heights - today's immigrants have little or no interest in becoming American. They retain their own culture, their own language, loyalty to their own nations; but they are interested in America - or more specifically, her money! This is being allowed in the name of multi-culturalism, which is a tool used by the Goblins (Globalists) to degrade nationalism and patriotism; its the intent and purpose of the power elite to shift a person's loyalty to one's nation to that of an economic status and being loyal to whoever provides that (which today and tomorrow is and will be the Globalized Economy, starting with the various 'Unions' being put into place). 

Yet multi-culturalism is not the only degrading force that America is facing as a result of liberal immigration; scores of illegals crossing our borders are also criminals on their own side of the border! "In fiscal year 2009, CAP failed to identify 890 criminal aliens eligible for removal from the United States, according to the report. These criminals had been incarcerated in facilities in Texas and California and were released back into U.S. society." 

Illegal Convicts with Records Released Into US Population 

 Some of these people crossing our borders are military with unauthorized access into our nation! Two hundred and sixteen incursions over the last ten years, possibly more! One confrontation with the Mexican military here in Tucson, AZ resulted in many of our Border Patrol agents being fired upon! Local and State protests directed towards our own Federal Government were met with deaf ears. Mexican Military Unauthorized Incursions Into USA 

 On top of this, the push for amnesty for illegals is only increasing. Even as 2010 was coming to a close, an article written about George Soros and his endorsement and financial backing of organizations that supported his own O.S.I. (Open Society Institute) shows the overwhelming landslide that threatens to wash away the sovereignty of our own nation by flooding (even more so than even now) our nation with illegals, who with a stroke of a pen will become citizens of a greater political entity that would encompass Canada, the US and Mexico - Socialist Organizations Funded by G. Soros 

 To learn more about George Soros and his objectives, see the following article: The Progressive War In the above article it states: "David Kupelian, managing editor of WorldNetDaily.com and editor of Whistleblower magazine calls Soros a God-hating atheist, a self-hating Jew, a capitalism-hating socialist, and an America-hating globalist. 

That is just the start. He supports euthanasia, legalizing drugs, socialism, gay rights and global governance. He opposes free enterprise, Israel (even though he is a Jew) and U.S. sovereignty. He wants to devalue the U.S. dollar, telling the Financial Times in October 2009 that an orderly decline of the dollar is actually desirable, even though Americans would suffer if it were to happen. Soros wants to replace the U.S. dollar as the worlds reserve currency and replace it with a new currency system." If that were to happen it would have a catastrophic effect on the U.S."

* * Note - Glenn Beck is quoted throughout this article, and we do not endorse Mr. Beck's religious views, but will use him as a news source where his information is verified. While all this is happening on our southern border, the northern area of our nation, particularly in Michigan and specifically the Dearborn area, as well as Saylorsburg, PA are experiencing greater and more aggressive Islamic interactions and infiltrations: 

Such infractions against the freedom of speech and freedom of religion of Americans, when they are peacefully and amiably expressing their faith, all because they are doing so in an Islamic majority area like Dearborn, MI, at an Arab Festival are increasing in intensity and without justification. 

Note here in this video that the Christians are being arrested due to charges that are a part of the police record, cited at the beginning of the clip: 

Acts17Apologetics Returns to Dearborn Arab Festival 

And in Saylorsburg, PA there are alarming developments by way of a compound, funded, built and maintained by Turkish men and led by a one Fethulah Gulen, owner and operator of the compound and a multi-billionaire. 

"Christian militias have been raided in Michigan and Ohio. Its members rounded up and tossed in prison. Its cache of weapons confiscated. But a well-armed Muslim militia composed not of American citizens but foreign militants operates under the noses of federal and state law enforcement officials. 

"If you doubt it, pay a visit to Saylorsburg, PA, in the heart of the Pocono Mountains. These guys use fully automatic weapons AK-47s - for target practice, one local businessman says. We called the FBI but nothing has been done to stop them.

"The Muslims have been here for years, another resident says. They've been engaged in training for guerilla warfare. The Muslims in question are Turks who occupy a 45 acre compound that is owned and operated by Fethullah Gulen." 

 Read more about this here: ISLAMIC SOLDIERS in PENNSYLVANIA 

 "He (Mr. Fethullah) has also established over 90 Islamic schools (madrassahs) throughout the United States, where students are indoctrinated in the tenets of political Islam. These charter schools are funded by American taxpayers. 

"The purpose of every Gulen school, according to the Middle East Media Research Institute, is to train Muslim students to become lawyers, accountants, and political leaders so that they can take an active part in the restoration of the Ottoman Empire and the Islamization of the Western World." 

While all this is going on: political, economic and social unrest, it seems America is sitting on a catastrophic time bomb just waiting to detonate. Americans are already angry over the state of the nation; what's going to happen once the Federal Government decides to pass Amnesty laws? Or these Islamic forces within our borders decide to take action? Or the economic plight of our country is finally accomplished to the point of ruin? Chaos? Riots? Violence? How will such things be controlled so as to not escalate into total destruction? Would you believe Internment Camps? 

Yet who will occupy these camps? Illegal Mexicans? That's what the government claims that such camps are for; yet today they are nominally empty of such. Then who are they for? In reality that remains to be seen, and yet its not such an outrageous supposition that Christians who uphold and declare the Word of Truth, the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the only Savior of the world who shed His own Holy Blood on behalf of mankind and his sin; Christians who would deny any authority that would deny their own God-given right to their allegiance to God and His Word might one day find themselves in such facilities! 

John Whitehead from the Ruthorford Institute: 

". . . recently Halliburton publicly announced that the Bush Administration had awarded a $385 million contract to its subsidiary, Kellogg Brown and Root, to build American detention facilities. Ironically, these facilities are not being built in discreet locations around the globe to house captured terrorists or even so-called enemy combatants. They are being built on American soil. 

"Although the government and Halliburton have failed to offer details as to where or when these domestic detention centers will be built, they have offered justifications for their future existence. According to the government contract, these Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facilities, as they are formally named, are being built to prepare for an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs in the event of other emergencies such as natural disasters. In other words, with such fluid language, these detention camps could be used for anyone including political dissidents." 

"As I've written before (www.rutherford.org), in the 1980s and 1990s under President Reagan, FEMA, a relatively unknown agency, morphed into what some call a shadow government. FEMA lost its identity as a federal agency focused on disaster relief to an underground agency dedicated to some of the nation's most secret plans of countering civil unrest and ensuring the stability of power in government." 

To read this article in full, click on this link: American Detention Camps 

For more on this 'shadow government' watch this series of video clips (four in total; on youtube they should automatically play all of them in succession at the link provided below) with Grant Jeffrey and Alex Jones (note: I tend to be cautious re: Mr. Jones and his flamboyant nature, and his eschatological views, but as a news source, I have found him on the 'cutting edge' of events. I do not necessarily endorse everything stated by Mr. Jones or his views). 

SHADOW GOV'T UPCOMING? 

I understand that all of this is a rather BIG pill to swallow; much of it seems conjectural and unsubstantiated - except for those who know their Bibles and particularly prophecy. I've said this time and time again: if one looks around at the state of affairs in this world, then looks at what the Bible says will transpire in the last days, then conducts a little navigational experiment (how do we get from where we are today, to where the Bible says we will be in the last days prior to Christ Jesus' Return?); that navigational exercise will lead you along a path that is parallel, if not IDENTICAL to what's happening, and what's going to happen in our near future! 

 And yet where is the church here in America? What is her condition, and what is her level of preparedness for these coming tumultuous times ahead? Good question; I shall leave that for part 2 of this article.